Talk:Categories (style guide)

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Hierarchy of Categories: Competitions?

I noticed Sarmas and I recently did contradictory changes about the categories of competitions.

For instance, I put the Premios Hispanos 2001 page into only two categories: Category:Premios Hispanos and Category:2001. Sarmas added Category:Spanish, Category:Competitions and Category:Spanish competitions; but I think they're not needed, because Category:Premios Hispanos is a subcategory of Category:Spanish competitions, and Category:Spanish competitions is a subcategory of both Category:Spanish and Category:Competitions!

In general, I think the categories are much easier to browse if we don't include all their subcategories, subsubcategories, etc. and the pages from these subcategories. But I also know there are at least two exceptions to that rule on the IFWiki: all the People must be in Category:People, and all the Games must be in Category:Games. Maybe we could do the same thing with Competitions (which would mean all the competitions should be in Category:Competitions, including every Speed-IF, every non-English competition, every XYZZY Awards, and so on)? But it would still be only Category:Competitions; for instance, Premios Hispanos 2001 would be in Category:Competitions, but not in Category:Spanish competitions or Category:Spanish...

However, this is just my personal opinion! I'd like to know what the "official" rules are; maybe there could be a more detailed "Hierarchy of Categories" section, or a Competitions (style guide) page? --Eriorg 04:25, 27 November 2007 (PST)

I had that problem again (I didn't know what categories I should use) with the new Premios Hispanos 2007 page.
I hope I'm not being tedious: I'm just asking the same question again, because it might have been missed the first time. --Eriorg 10:55, 29 January 2008 (PST)
Personally, I think Sarmas did the wrong thing. In my opinion, Premios Hispanos 2001 should be listed only in Category:Premios Hispanos and Category:2001. Adding it to Category:Spanish, etc. just makes a muddle of things. I didn't change it at the time because we didn't have any policy against it, and it was possible people might prefer it the way Sarmas did it. My way of doing things isn't always right, y'know. :)
However, your idea about putting every competition in Category:Competitions is an interesting one. It would be a consistent parallel to treat the Competitions category the same way Games and People are handled. I am concerned, though, that if we did that, we might also want a "One-time competitions" or "Non-recurring competitions" category so things like DragonComp and SegmentComp are listed somewhere without being overwhelmed by the recurring comps.
And while we're on the subject of competition categories, I kinda want to get rid of Category:Minicomp. It's a bit of a judgment call if a comp is a minicomp or not, and I'm not sure it helps anyone to have it as a separate category anyway. -- David Welbourn 00:53, 31 January 2008 (PST)

I agree with you about everything!

I didn't really want to list every comp in the Competitions category (I'd rather not do it, actually!): I just mentioned it as a possible compromise.

However, before we change things again, we should know what Sarmas' opinion is. --Eriorg 02:57, 31 January 2008 (PST)

I agree that the article belongs noly to the subcategories, but I wanted it to be liste aldos when you selected the other (parent) categories listed; is I didn't add them, it wasn listed in them. --Incanus 09:28, 31 January 2008 (PST)